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Ontario Hansard
Session 38:1
14-October 2004

YORK CENTRAL HOSPITAL


Mr Frank Klees (Oak Ridges): My question is to the Minister of Health. Minister, the finance minister, who is also the member for Vaughan-King-Aurora, and the member for Thornhill will be very interested in your response to this question. Minister, I received a letter from Dr Watson, who is an orthopaedic surgeon at the York Central Hospital. He says, "Ten months have now passed since that announcement" -- he's making reference to the announcement for a major needed expansion at York Central Hospital -- "yet York Central Hospital remains at a standstill." He goes on to say, "...what really is going on here and why has YCH been blackballed...."

My question to you is exactly that: Why has York Central Hospital not heard from you with regard to an approval for such an important expansion? I know the Minister of Finance and the member for Thornhill must have been speaking to you about this as well. Can you tell this House why we have not heard from you with regard to an absolutely important expansion for this hospital while waiting lists continue to line up, while we have tremendous pressures and while a crisis is developing at York Central Hospital? Why have you not come forward with this project?


Hon George Smitherman (Minister of Health and Long-Term Care): The member raises an excellent question, because York Central stands with a very, very long list of hospitals in the province of Ontario that had promises made by the previous government that were unfulfilled financially. One of the realities --

Interjections.


Hon Mr Smitherman: There is absolutely no doubt that that exceptional hospital in Richmond Hill, in an area of our province which has seen a lot of growth, is under pressure. Nobody would doubt that. But the reality we face is that, on a long list of hospitals that were announced with no funding associated, there are also of course, once built, significant operational obligations.

York Central is not unique in the province. There is a significant number of hospitals -- others were referenced in members' statements today -- that are awaiting similar news. My ministry is working very hard with the Minister of Public Infrastructure Renewal, and I send this message to the people of York region: The local MPPs are advocating very effectively on their behalf, and we expect to be in a position to make announcements shortly.

Interjection.


Mr Klees: Speaker, the Minister of Finance makes light of this, because he said, "You know, you made a presentation on this," and --

Interjections.


The Speaker (Hon Alvin Curling): Order. Minister of Finance. OK. That's enough.

Mr Klees: As I said before, the Minister of Finance makes light of this by saying that the cheque bounced. The approval that was gone through the entire process was about a two-and-a-half-year period of time. This project was a priority for the Ministry of Health. It was approved. This Minister of Finance approved some $4 billion of new spending on programs right across this province and didn't have the courage to stand up for a hospital that is serving his constituents as a priority.

Minister of Health, did this finance minister ever speak to you about the importance of this project and ask you to fund it? Did he or did he not?


Hon Mr Smitherman: I think if the honourable member reads back my first answer, he'll see that I acknowledge that York Central is a priority project, but --

Mr Klees: Where's the money?

Hon Mr Smitherman: That is a very interesting question. The member asks --

Interjections.


The Speaker: Order. I'm sure if a question is asked, one would like to hear a response.

Interjections.


The Speaker: The member from Oak Ridges. I'm not quite sure if you want a response. If you would just allow the minister to respond, then he will. Minister.

Hon Mr Smitherman: Eight and a half years in government and that member asks, "Where's the money?" What I'm sure the people of York region are asking is, "Where was the money to back up the fake cheque that the honourable member presented?"

Interjections.


The Speaker: Order.

Interjections.


Mr Klees: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

Interjections.


The Speaker: I have to get order first before I can entertain a point of order.

Mr Klees: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: The reality is that the people of York region know precisely what --

Interjections.


The Speaker: Order.

Interjections.


The Speaker: The member from Oak Ridges. I may have to warn this member, and I'm warning the member now, because you're not allowing the question period to proceed and other members are being denied their questions.